Testifying Against the Con-Con in WI

March 29, 2017, Madison, WI: Christian Pastor to Legislators: “Your Duty is Interposition! Stop Taking the Money!”

This was the testimony given by Pastor Matthew Trewhella at the public hearing to the Committee on Financial Services, Constitution and Federalism at the Wisconsin state Capitol on March 28, 2017 regarding a bill to have Wisconsin call an Article 5 convention.

Here is what he said:

“We all know what you intend to do here – to spend years creating yet another piece of paper to only to have it trampled by yet another federal court, impugned by yet another Congress, or rolled over by yet another executive order from POTUS. This federal government has spent decades trampling the Constitution. Your piece of paper with new words added to the Constitution or a completely new Constitution would be trampled yet again – as the current Constitution has been trampled. What you are doing here with this bill is designed to give the impression that you are doing something – while you do nothing.

You possess the lawful authority, the right, and the duty to interpose against the federal government now – without creating yet another piece of paper. You chance a convention of the states for a mere balanced budget amendment? Over mere money? Our nation’s monetary problems are the result of our moral problems.

This federal government slaughters the preborn and you bow to it. They pervert marriage and you bend over and take it. And yes, you will submit to their filth and injustice when they declare that boys must be allowed in girl’s shower-rooms.

This federal government picks our pockets and spends massive amounts of money on unconstitutional departments and programs – and yet the states allow them to do it. In fact, the states participate in the plundering. Like a whore, the states have been bought off. The states have acquiesced to this mugging. The states have given up political authority so that they can obtain mere money from the federal beast. Such an arrangement encourages state legislatures to be more interested in doing the bidding of their federal master than they are in doing what is right for the people in the sight of God.

What you do here is designed to give cover to that collusion in “why” we have a federal government that spends unconstitutionally. Such treachery is laid plain to many of us here. Such obfuscation is apparent.

You belie your duty gentlemen by proffering yet another piece of paper. Your duty is to establish and uphold justice in our state. This is your God-given duty. It is a sacred duty. Yet, you prefer to create yet another piece of paper.

The state of Wisconsin is not to be a mere province of the federal government. The state of Wisconsin is not to be a mere implementation center for unjust and immoral federal law, policy, and court opinions. It is not a mere conduit to dispense federal money. You have a duty to maintain this state’s authorities, rights, and liberties.

Your duty is interposition.

Stop taking the money!

Quit recognizing as legitimate the unconstitutional spending. Quit recognizing as legitimate the unconstitutional departments, programs, and mandates. End your collusion. You claim the federal government is out of control – quit aiding and abetting them in their unconstitutional actions. Quit hiding behind the lie that “the federal government has made a mandate – all we can do is obey” – along with the other common song “the federal courts have ruled – all we can do is obey.” Confront the tyrant.

As a minister in this state for 29 years now – I wholeheartedly oppose this attempt to make Wisconsin yet another state of fools calling for an Article 5. You possess lawful authority. Quit hiding behind this skirt and interpose against a federal government that has long broken the chains of the Constitution meant to bind it down – THAT is what is needed and necessary.


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